BOMBSHELL ALLEGATIONS FROM OTHER PARENTS ABOUT BROOKLYN MINDS, Dr Owen Muir | Dr. Scott muir and other therapists

We have received the following email with bombshell allegations from parents whose daughter has been in treatment with Dr Owen Muir and other therapists from Brooklyn. Minds.

"Hi Mrs. Haddad, 
Thank you for responding. We understand your caution in learning more about me. Our hearts truly break for you. We are so sorry about your daughter. I am a licensed psychotherapist and have been in practice now for almost 30 years.
Our daughter, 26, is a patient of Owen's. We are so disturbed by his treatment of our daughter. I am a psychotherapist in the West coast. They have always seemed off to me. When our daughter was actively suicidal and instead of calling for a welfare check or 911, or the authorities, her psychotherapist went to her apartment, retrieved her and then brought her back to the clinic for 9 hours worth of TMS. And the next day full of 9 hours of TMS treatments. And then she was sent home. 

As a clinician, if I had an actively suicidal client I would never go to their home. I found this very bizarre. I have had my doubts about Owen for years. He has seen her for roughly 5 years and has seen the psychotherapist for a couple years now. Our daughter finally signed a release so we can talk with her clinicians.

Apparently one of her clinicians lost a patient to suicide a few months ago. When we spoke on the phone with her clinician, we assumed it would be a professional conversation. The person was either drunk or on something. The clinician kept saying how much they loved our daughter and they didn't want her to die. 

Our daughter is safe with us. But we have seen her talk about Owen and how he really gets mad at her most of the time. That's not normal. He clearly has anger management issues. And her clinician was so weird and out of it, saying our daughter was going to die. And they kept me on the phone for nearly 2 hours. At one point they said something that chilled us to the bone. We told the clinician that we would take care of our daughter going forward, and then her clinician said: 

"oh sweetie, you don't understand, she's mine."

??? 
I have never heard such an inappropriate comment coming from a therapist. Neither have any of my colleagues.
This excessive self disclosure is NOT OKAY. And as a clinician I am appalled by their behavior. We found you because we found out they were being sued. We are so sorry about your daughter. That's awful. We plan to report both of them to their respective boards but we need to first get our daughter away from them for good. 

They are like a cult. 

They have her doing so much therapy and TMS. When she was visited and she had a therapy appointment, she became concerned that she was going to be in big big trouble with Owen. We told her she could cancel the appointments. Her therapist was urging her to come back to NY to talk to her. We told our daughter to tell her clinician that she is with her parents. And that we will be taking care of her. She did not respond well and did so in a passive aggressive way. But we are very worried about our daughter and we don’t sleep at night.

Her therapist proceeded to tell her she had to come back to NY because as a clinician they were the only one that could help her. At that point we told our daughter that she did not have to leave and her therapist was being inappropriate. We spoke to her therapist. We wrote down everything they were saying and have some disturbing quotes. After we got off the phone with the therapist I called another clinician who is my colleague. This colleague and other clinician friends have told me that I need to report them to the board. My spouse heard part of the conversation and urged me to hang up because the therapist sounded out of their mind. 

We spoke with Owen finally, when he took our call. He listened but seemed rather defensive. We are afraid he will talk our daughter into coming back. We want her as far away from them as she can be. She has asked me not to report either her therapist or Owen to their respective boards but I can’t do that, and as a clinician and not just a parent, I feel obligated ethically to do so.  Our daughter is moving here to live with us and we are hoping that we can get her away from them and we can help her introduced to proper professionals here. We are so concerned about her being talked into returning to them.

Owen said to us that the therapist "wasn't like that" and that the death of a client by suicide recently had disregulated the clinician. That is not an excuse for that kind of behavior. I suggested they may not be in the best place to practice and needs a break. He then told me that they "moved hell and earth" and spent hours on the phone with our daughter’s insurance to get her covered but unfortunately were unable to get her covered. 
I don't see how that was relevant, and it felt very defensive and inappropriate. We tried to speak to Dr. Carlene MacMillan who wanted nothing to do with us.

Our daughter has always expressed feeling beholden to them because of his hard work to get her sessions covered. 
I deal with insurance and it is a pain but I would never tell my clients how hard it was to get coverage. It is simply inappropriate. They seem like a cult to me. Our daughter has been going to therapy some weeks 4 to 5 times a week. Sometimes more. Anyone who needs to be seen so many times a week should be in a psych unit for a brief period. And under 24/7 supervision. The day our daughter was suicidal she had 9 hours of TMS and the next day another 9 hours of TMS. We don't understand what they are doing. 
18 hours of TMS in barely over 24 hours and she is still suicidal. Clearly either their knowledge of TMS is poor, or they might not be giving the appropriate magnetic pulses needed for a patient to improve. Like a taximeter, they keep charging patients for endless TMS sessions. That is not how TMS is supposed to work.

We feel that they have been taking advantage of our daughter and her vulnerabilities We don't like hearing the things they have said to us and to her. At this point we are not sure that our daughter understands that this is not normal but we are doing our best to explain. We are very concerned with her therapist telling our daughter regularly how much they love her. We told Owen that and he doesn't seem to understand that is so unprofessional and violates boundaries in a major way. The therapist said some awful things on the phone to me last time we spoke. 

Our daughter told us that they knew they were being investigated and sued and that's how we found you.  We googled the practice and found the article in the NY Post and then found your blog. When you posted about the things Owen said to your daughter it reminded us of how he has interacted with our daughter. And the email he wrote after the death of your daughter was completely bizarre.

There is something wrong with him. 

I read my colleagues some of the things you have posted on the blog and they agree it's horrifying. They are also concerned about our daughter going back to them because our daughter feels she “owes” them. She doesn't owe them a damn thing. We pay plenty. It is going to take a while to undo the damage they've done. They have done too much damage already."

This is not the first time parents have contacted us, with this type of allegations, nor the first time they have written the allegation that "something is wrong with Dr. Owen Muir."
These latest allegations are quite disturbing, and concerning.
We will keep fighting because we want to prevent other parents from going through what we are going through - and above all to prevent them from harming other young adults.
​They are evil. Their texts and emails to our daughter show that clearly, and in due time they will be introduced in court. Their texts and emails to us are also evil, many people we have shown to - professionals - have said so.